Facts Really Do Matter

Last week, Democracy Now's Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez sat down for an hour long interview with CNN's Lou Dobbs. Unlike on his daily propaganda fest, where he has complete control of the debate, Dobbs was forced to face tough questions from reality based journalists. Armed with quotes, clips from his show, and actual factual evidence, Goodman and Gonzales took Dobbs to task.

AMY GOODMAN: So, Lou, you said a third of the prison population are illegal aliens.

LOU DOBBS: Right.

AMY GOODMAN: The fact is, it’s something like 6% of prisoners in this country are non-citizens, not even illegal, just non-citizens.

LOU DOBBS: Right.

AMY GOODMAN: And then a percentage of that would not be documented.

LOU DOBBS: Well, it’s actually—I think it’s 26% in federal prison.

AMY GOODMAN: But you said of all prisoners.

LOU DOBBS: I said about—yes, but I—and I misspoke, without question. I was referring to federal prisoners.

AMY GOODMAN: But you didn’t say that, and so it leaves people with the impression—

LOU DOBBS: Well, I didn’t, but then I just explained it to you.

AMY GOODMAN: But you have a very large audience on CNN.

LOU DOBBS: I have a very large audience and a very bright audience.

AMY GOODMAN: And you told them that a third of the population of this country are illegal immigrants. 6% , which is under the population of immigrants—

LOU DOBBS: 6% , right.

AMY GOODMAN: —in this country, of prisoners—

LOU DOBBS: In state prisons.

AMY GOODMAN: —are immigrants.

LOU DOBBS: In state prisons. In state prisons.

AMY GOODMAN: No, 6% overall are immigrants. You said 30% are illegal.

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For those who didn't get to see or hear Dobbs get his ass handed to him - here's the complete segment. It really is good to see what happens to a schoolyard bully when the big kids finally show up at the playground.

UPDATE: You Tube video has now been removed due to terms of use violation. New Live stream link - HERE

Complete transcript here

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