Tuesday, March 18, 2008

Data Base Error ... You're fired!!!

"Data base error ...no file found" ... You're fired!!!

That's the response millions of America workers could hear if the flawed Shuler-Tancredo immigration bill was to become law.

Requiring over 130 million US workers to prove they have the legal right to work, the SAVE ACT (HR4088) would force employers to submit to using a broken government database, so inaccurate that 12.7 million US-born and legal resident workers are categorized as undocumented workers. Once caught in this maze of bureaucratic incompetency, the SAVE Act would allow only ten days to prove ones eligibility to work or face mandatory termination.

In unsettled economic times, when many Americans are a single paycheck away from economic disaster, the last thing we need is another cynical election-year ploy to play to "the base" at the expense of working families. The American people want real solutions to real problems ... not cheap sound-bites masquerading as legislation.

Call your representative today, and tell them you want them to do the real work you hired them to do, and not concentrate on divisive distractions in hopes of saving their political hides in November.

Tell them to concentrate on addressing these economic problems. Tell them you want them to fix health care for all Americans. Tell them you want the education system fixed. Tell them to fix our broken immigration system. Tell them to stop wasting precious lives and needed resources in a war that should never have been authorized and should not be continued.

Tell them you will not settle for half-baked schemes and election-year ploys ... especially at the expense of millions of jobs that are needed to keep our heads just barely above water in tough economic times.


Publius said...

There is no such thing as a perfect database. To dismiss the SS database as a useful tool just because it isn't is simply exploiting that situation for your own agenda. And I believe that you are incorrect. If there is an error, the person involved is given the right to challenge the error and make it right. The 90-days given by the Department of Homeland Security should be perfectly adequate. Moreover, it gives the citizen an opportunity to have his record corrected long before retirement. Raise your hand if you like having your Social Security Records in a state of disarray.

Duke1676 said...

Schuler-Tancredo wouldn't even give the original 90 day period that DHS requested, which Judge Breyer deemed inadequate ... but cuts that down to 10 days. Anyone who's ever dealt with a government agency from the IRS to the Dept of Motor Vehicles knows that 10 days to handle 10's of thousands of requests is impossible.

As to fixing the database, there are absolutely NO provisions in the bill fix anything.

So as usual...your information is once again incorrect.

Publius said...

My apologies for overlooking that fact, but if the original 90-days were in effect, the plan would work. What's this "as usual" business? It's the first time I've posted here.

Anonymous said...

What seems to escape everyone is that these restrictive policies will once again take away freedom & liberty of citizens.

Additionally, what do we do with 12 million undocumented, who cannot work, pay their rent, feed their families or even go back to their country of origin. This is not the way to fix this very complexed issue.

Anonymous said...

Once the jobs magnet has dried up, you sit back and watch the exodus of millions of illegal aliens as they leave the U.S. to find jobs elsewhere. They don't have to return to their countries of origin, but they sure can't stay here without means of support. Those that choose not to leave or resort to criminal activities to survive will be dealt with by the proper law enforcement agencies.

Richard said...

Brilliant, another “’attrition’ through starvation” proposal.

This proposal is odious. (I like that word). How can its advocates have so little concern for the welfare of the millions of children (tiny US citizens) who would be plunged into sudden and inescapable poverty? Many of these children would face a real risk of malnutrition and lack of medical care. This is unacceptable.

We need ethical immigration policy.

Horace said...

Well, Richard, what do you intend to do for the millions of Central/South Americans who bring their children into poverty every year? A guest worker program will never solve their problem as we can't possibly accommodate them. Illegal immigration across our southern border will not be solved by a guest worker program, as such programs do not go to the root cause, the dysfunctional governments south of our border. Give the 12 -20 million illegal aliens here amnesty and you'll just be supporting the status quo, encouraging further illegal immigration, and introducing a huge tax burden on society. If you want to give to charity, Richard, do so on your own, but don't saddle your country with what is the responsibility of other nations.

Any "starvation" problem should be handled through the United Nations and the Republic of Mexico, et al. Mexico is not the third world nation that some would portray it to be. It's one of the richest country's in minerals and oil in the region. Given that fact, why should Americans be forced to make up for the failings of the Mexican government? Mexico should be forced to take action on its own before we should assist them.

Publius said...

Horace posted this over at Immigration Lawyers blog. It seems to be appropos to your posting. It would seem to refute your assertion that E-Verify is utterly doomed to failure:


It seems that the alleged no-match problem is nowhere near the problem that you open borders folks claim (or is it hoped?) it to be. It's amazing how empircism often trumps hysterical popaganda based upon wishful thinking. However, I have faith that you'll continue distorting the truth to support your agenda, as you've done with the false claim of higher hate crimes against Hispanics.

This from the Tucson Citizen:


Employers have screened about 2.5 million new hires in the first six months of fiscal 2008 through E-Verify, the Department of Homeland Security's database that determines which employees can legally work in the U.S. This compares to 3.3 million in fiscal 2007 and 1.7 million in fiscal 2006, according to the department.
Arizona mandated that all businesses use E-Verify starting Jan. 1, and fewer problems have been reported than originally feared, said Ann Seiden, spokeswoman for the state Chamber of Commerce that opposed the measure in the legislature last year.

Companies haven't left the state in reaction to E-Verify, she said, and employers haven't reported major problems with the database.
"Anecdotally, we haven't heard as much backlash as we originally thought," Seiden said. "Although it's mandatory, there are a lot of businesses not using it yet."

Anonymous said...

"What seems to escape everyone is that these restrictive policies will once again take away freedom & liberty of citizens."

You are so naive, anonymous. I've been on this planet for more that 50 years now, and I've seen many an impetus for change that have restricted the liberty of citizens, many beyond our power to control. Before we were so safety conscious, no one wore seat belts while driving. Before we required helmets for motorcyclists, many Americans never wore them. Before we had high crime rates, we could leave the doors to our homes unlocked. Before we had airplane hijackers we didn't need X-ray machines or legions of TSA officials. Before the invasion of illegl aliens, we didn't have as many Border Patrol agents and have to expend millions of dollars to prevent illegal immigration. Before we had employers disregarding our immigration laws we had little use for E-verify. Various agents of change have necessitated evermore changes to accommodate new safety and security requirements. You may lament the past all you want, but get used to it.